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On Monday, we told you about Taliyah Cockburn, the black Louisiana teen beauty pageant contestant and one of the three judges said that Taliyah’s natural afro was not “finished.”
Here’s what judge three said about Taliyah. “Slow down, finish hair, pretty color dress.”
Well, one of the judges, judge number two, the black one, the only black one, Stacey Simien-Dickens, saw our story on YouTube and posted this comment.
“HI! I was one of the judges at the pageant in LA I just saw the video interview of I am also the current president of the LA pageant judges association and this was not a race issue. There is an expectation of grooming among other things in pageants. Her sister competed and was more groomed than she and she placed. It’s not about her the child was not put together as a whole. Please don’t make this a race issue bc we have plenty of things that are racial issues that need highlighting here in LA but this is NOT one of them. It looked like she has been mistreated but it’s partially her family to blame for putting her up there and not having her completely put together to compete in that type of pageant.”
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I wear my natural 4c hair but even I don't wear it in a plain Afro (Who does that?). I twist it or sometimes use heat. I don't even know any Whyte or non blk women that just leave their hair "natural" without blow drying it or even flat iron AND blow dry. Also ww and non bw have diferente types of perms like "Beach wave" or curly perm. Ww and non blk women DO use "weaves", they call it "Hair clips" or "extensions. I don't recommend bw wearing perms especially on 4c hair because it is the most fragile of our hair type and will EASILY break off if you aren't contantly maintaining it aswell as eating extremely good and nonstop exercise (for reasons that are waaay to long to go into detail)
That Monique chick just came across as real fake and disingenuous 🙄
All this coming from black women with straight hair 😑🤨
In short straighten your wool to look like other people but your natural self, something similar to the female speaker on Mr Roland show
I had a knee jerk reaction listening to some of this. The adaption and internalize of these standards of beauty is real and going against it has consequences and it shouldn’t. Adopting it only reinforces that standard and makes a silent statement about natural hair. But I do appreciate the women’s openness and honesty. If it were a different issue; say body shaming, and she stated that she felt slimmer is better because that’s the message she, women and girls gets implicitly and explicitly in society. How would we respond to that? Would we judge it? Or acknowledge that yes, people are rewarded and punished for their weight/body type?
Who dictates how natural hair is to be groomed? The discussion automatically becomes racial.
She didn't want to be on the show but she write a whole freakin' dissertation on the subject??
Racist or not racist. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking the law as justice doesn't excuse or forgive it. Why is naturally straight blond hair excepted and naturally curly brown hair not? Who determines the expectations?
So are dey asking this young lady to CHANGE WHO SHE IS to PLEASE others? I THINK NOT LET HER ROCK WAT SHE LOVES. you go girl IM PROUD OF YOU!!!
that lady is the epitome of everything a black woman is intelligent cool so grateful
she forgive the lady man called the lady going to get a Beatdown on YouTube and social media
I can understand Mom man that's politics man she don't want them blackball her daughter's bro…!!
that was so funny when you get my daughter a blowout
Larry on the panel made a good point anti-blackness is definitely within the reins of our ethnicity. I remember one time I walked into the beauty supply store and I have my natural hair out it was a full afro nice and big pretty all mine… I was proud, I felt more beautiful than I ever had in my life more sexy than I ever had in my life because it was the first time I ever walked out like that heads turned all over the place I didn't even let it phase me because that's how strong I felt it was like a power. I get into the beauty supply store and I see two black young ladies around my age little younger just buy a few years probably with straggly relaxed hair unkempt they're looking for products to help their hair grow gels to Slick it back they were in that aisle I went in that same aisle to get some oils for my scalp and some moisturizer for my hair they stared at me before I came down that aisle as soon as I came in the store they started sniggling and giggling pointing at me but Whispering amongst themselves two black beautiful women with Raggedy hair because whoever used relaxers on them or whatever upkeep they kept on themselves at home just wasn't working for their hair their hair was breaking off it was terrible to see but I did not judge them. When I saw them sniggling and giggling and I knew I had to go down that aisle I couldn't wait because of the power that I had within myself because I was all me, my real hair, no chemicals to alter its state. Once I got near them they really started to laugh kind of loudly and say look at her why she wear her hair like that it's all nappy ( by the way my curls were popping but my Afro was standing out I did have it in a perfect circumference and you could see all the definition within it it was amazing to me I got a lot of compliments that day too from people as well) anyway, I stopped right in front of them put my hand on my hip turned and looked at them in their eyes and said it look good don't it?! And walked off turned back around and looked at them and waved bye they were speechless their mouths hung open they left the aisle I think they left the store. I didn't even see them anymore, yeah that power was something of them to recognize what was true beauty with true confidence and not a facade of what they try to tell us what our true beauty is as our culture and nature of our ethnicity!! I'm about to cut my hair off again and experience a new afro because I went through some traumatic experiences and my hair has suffered so I'm cutting it back off since I'm healthy again and growing it back I can't wait! The afro is not the only thing that made me feel powerful it was just that I could wear my own hair and not feel judgment even if people were trying to judge me to my face I don't care because I know God made me beautiful just the way I AM and everything came from Brown don't play Love You Roland!!!
the lady on the panel throw her the hell away don't ever have her back no absolutely not she's one of those people of her own culture in her own ethnicity that don't understand and look at her hair and then had the nerve to tell her daughter she needs her to go get a blowout girl bye sit down have several seeds nobody wants to hear your face that's why rolling cut you off and went straight to the next person nobody wants to hear you need to sit down and learn the definition of our hair the definition of what it means because I used to think natural hair was ugly before I went natural once I sat down to YouTube when YouTube really first started getting into the natural Community I fell in love that night I could not even stop looking at it I fell in love with the versatility uniqueness the history just everything about it girl sit down and go learn something nobody wants to see you give her a break no she's just like you miss lady I'm going to shut up before I say something rude never have her back Roland on this….. UGH!!
She’s fat though forget about her hair …
Afros are complete. And beautiful. She as a vice president has been white washed and prejudice against her own people. Tell her to give up her black card.
To the lady talking about her daughter you have to remember where you was raised and what time you was raised and where she was raised and what time she was raised it's totally different especially if she was raised out west in these times
Ohh so we cant give our opinion on her hair OHHHH SHE GETS BLACK PRIVLAGE..OHHHHH OKAY. JIST CAUSE YOU WEAR AN AFRO DOESBT MEAN YOU CANT GET COMMENTED ON
Just wait until the hair gets horrifically damaged by hair processing treatments.It's like telling Caucasian pageant contestants that their skin is not colored enough.Wait until they wind up getting skin cancers.
Pagents that perpetrate Eurocentric beauty standards on non European people = Enforcing Assimilation
Dude spoke truthful talk I been speaking this for years and how they have our daughters out washing cars in short outfits for their school to raise money for the outfits they are wearing.
The sister on the panel absolutely agreed with the Judges. She couldn't even hide it, probably was in a sorority.
Did her Twin sister write the second reply? She herself echoed the "unfinished" sentiment.
Maybe the girl should have gotten natural hair weave added to make a really cute pageantry afro look, as that pageant culture is kind of flamboyant when it comes to makeup and dress.
Well a line needs to be drawn somewhere…these styles the men are wearing is ridiculous looking like the status of liberty gone wrong.
Some more bullshit
Why is a white girl with just straight flat hair ok and not considered not complete.
This is crazy. What is completely put together?
Her second statement was so contradictory. I swear it really be our own people
Thanks!
This is one trying conversation. It is what it is.
stay out of their world..
do all black pageants…
Every one need to stop with this hate .
I can't believe that just because The Young Lady decide it to be natural everyone is having a Problem. The Judge was saying so many things . What is wrong with the hair. Her hair looks beautiful . If she want to have her hair like that let her be. People need to know what Beauty is she looks beautiful and be happy for her People
Love one another it will be less hate on this Earth 🌍
God Bless Your hearts 💕
The little girl needed to comb her hair
Robert that is so true 💯
If you're not aware of all cultures, you shouldn't be a judge. Period!
Extensions represents Black culture… How far we've fallen.
All right Robert! Agreed! 100 percent!
Natural hair isn’t groomed hair though it’s NATURAL DO YOUR F-ing HAIR! This isn’t the place for natural hair do your hair!
Stacy does not have a clue! Fire her ass!
She said what she said. 😊Talking out the side of her mouth. There is NOTHING wrong with the hair that grows naturally out of our head.
I'm so tried of black women acting like we got to have straight hair to look good. Most of us came in this world with napp hair. Come on y'all, so many fake a** people. Straight or natural they don't hesitate to tell us your still not good enough. To hell with what they think. Please do you! & Love it.
Sure it's a culture… a white culture. But is is right or fair ? Why should the young lady abandon her true beauty to conform to the expected white look for beauty? Be true to you. Much success in the future,
We allow them to treat us like that
You aren't African Roland.